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	<title>Comments on: Model View Presenter (MVP) VS Model View Controller (MVC)</title>
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		<title>By: st.clouds</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>st.clouds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ignore 115.111.36.98, we know he&#039;s an idiot.

 I do think there&#039;s a lot more modularity that can be achieved using WCSF. It&#039;s a really good framework. So many tools and options also open up to you and you can achieve much better cohesion than you can with MVC (admittedly my biggest complain about it atm).

Very good observation with convincing architectural argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore 115.111.36.98, we know he&#8217;s an idiot.</p>
<p> I do think there&#8217;s a lot more modularity that can be achieved using WCSF. It&#8217;s a really good framework. So many tools and options also open up to you and you can achieve much better cohesion than you can with MVC (admittedly my biggest complain about it atm).</p>
<p>Very good observation with convincing architectural argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikola Malovic</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikola Malovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve/Faye/Sangram,

how impressive is that someone is so dumb to post 3 comments on the blog with the same IP adress (115.111.36.98) using different names and same broken english? 

Not sure why you insist insulting me when I don&#039;t disrispect you at all in, but I&#039;ll take that as a sign of your own personality and would leave all of your comments published so other can see what type of person you are trully.

Thanks,
Nikola]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve/Faye/Sangram,</p>
<p>how impressive is that someone is so dumb to post 3 comments on the blog with the same IP adress (115.111.36.98) using different names and same broken english? </p>
<p>Not sure why you insist insulting me when I don&#8217;t disrispect you at all in, but I&#8217;ll take that as a sign of your own personality and would leave all of your comments published so other can see what type of person you are trully.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Nikola</p>
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		<title>By: Nikola Malovic</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikola Malovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faye,

If you read my answer to him you can see that I also think MVC is better for web development.
I am calm - he and you are the ones who insult others calling them dump (btw, it is dumb not dump).  

Nikola
PS:&quot;Free PR advice: If you are going to insult other people on their blogs for their personal oppinion they publiclly shared with community, at least sign yourself with your full name and surname. It would look  less cheesy.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faye,</p>
<p>If you read my answer to him you can see that I also think MVC is better for web development.<br />
I am calm &#8211; he and you are the ones who insult others calling them dump (btw, it is dumb not dump).  </p>
<p>Nikola<br />
PS:&#8221;Free PR advice: If you are going to insult other people on their blogs for their personal oppinion they publiclly shared with community, at least sign yourself with your full name and surname. It would look  less cheesy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am agree with Faye &amp; sangram.

Can you imagine, someone takes more than 12 years to develop program for account.

That&#039;s Impressive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am agree with Faye &amp; sangram.</p>
<p>Can you imagine, someone takes more than 12 years to develop program for account.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Faye</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Faye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nkola don&#039;t be panic.

Sangram has right word to say that.

If you are dump, please don&#039;t put developers on different track.

Observe your self. Calm down.

Scale your self with others rather than pointing to his communication.

He is right, I am agree with his statements.

MVC wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nkola don&#8217;t be panic.</p>
<p>Sangram has right word to say that.</p>
<p>If you are dump, please don&#8217;t put developers on different track.</p>
<p>Observe your self. Calm down.</p>
<p>Scale your self with others rather than pointing to his communication.</p>
<p>He is right, I am agree with his statements.</p>
<p>MVC wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikola Malovic</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikola Malovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 09:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow,
I feel better seeing there is someone whose english is even worse then mine :)

Not sure what is your point Sangram? Is it telling me that I am to dumb to learn MVC? If so, too late for me to comply with it - I&#039;m using it in my day job for last 1+ year.

Both are UI design patterns which have upsdies and downsides. MVC is more natural to general web development for sure but MVP is also a valid approach which works with page controller centric approaches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow,<br />
I feel better seeing there is someone whose english is even worse then mine <img src='http://blog.vuscode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not sure what is your point Sangram? Is it telling me that I am to dumb to learn MVC? If so, too late for me to comply with it &#8211; I&#8217;m using it in my day job for last 1+ year.</p>
<p>Both are UI design patterns which have upsdies and downsides. MVC is more natural to general web development for sure but MVP is also a valid approach which works with page controller centric approaches.</p>
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		<title>By: Sangram</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Sangram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 09:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who dnt know how to use MVC are called dumps.

dnt try MVC.

dnt dare to read MVC for dummies even this is not for u.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who dnt know how to use MVC are called dumps.</p>
<p>dnt try MVC.</p>
<p>dnt dare to read MVC for dummies even this is not for u.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve used both the MVP and MVC patterns. I really like using MVP. I recently struggled a bit with a .NET MVC implementation and I have to admit I&#039;m a MVP fan for now. Thanks for the great article.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve used both the MVP and MVC patterns. I really like using MVP. I recently struggled a bit with a .NET MVC implementation and I have to admit I&#39;m a MVP fan for now. Thanks for the great article.</p>
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		<title>By: wiki</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuscode.com/malovicn/archive/2007/12/18/model-view-presenter-mvp-vs-model-view-controller-mvc.aspx#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>wiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;nice&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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